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Re: Kefir

Postby Sakkarin » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:24 am

It looks like a disease :-(

On the bright side, at least now I know what to look for in Tesco!

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Re: Kefir

Postby Renée » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:03 am

I was wondering earlier this morning, if eastern European people are healthier, because these products seem to be part of their daily diet.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Gillthepainter » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:48 pm

Could be, Renee.
I'm tempted to revisit the kefir now.

Sakkarin, it is most odd to look at, like a silicon gel. And rather creepy the way it multiplies twice-fold over night.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Uschi » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:51 pm

These things certainly keep you healthy, but my guess is that they get older, because they didn't have convenience food until recently.

If they ever were healthier in the first place.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Renée » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:46 pm

From what I further went on to read, we should be eating the foods of our ancestors, so for me that would be potatoes, vegetables, dairy, butter, lard for frying (!), lamb beef, chicken and fish. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

For the past week, I haven't been making my early morning smoothies, which contain lots of healthy stuff and have been having toasted fruit bread with spread and marmalade on, using butter sometimes and more oil in cooking and I have been feeling a lot better and my system is working well. :roll: It's not doing my weight much good, though.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Uschi » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:55 pm

I think you can eat whatever food you like within reason and especially if it is home cooked and not full of convenience food stuff.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Renée » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:09 pm

I well remember the 80s, Uschi! It was probably when I brewed Kombucha and read Leslie Kenton's books ... raw food and all that! It wasn't for me though, especially having a family to cook for at the time. I was probably sprouting seeds at that time, which I might well do again.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Uschi » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:27 pm

With my farm-bred mother and my father's delicate digestive system there was little chance of joining the raw food movement. Mind you, I would not have wanted to.

It was more about organic food and eating wild herbs and stuff. The older generation was horrified, because during and after the war many of them had been reduced to eating grass to survive.

My mother (farmer's daughter) had never been that hungry, and she even taught me foraging for rowan berries, sorrel and other things.

She knew how to make Sauerkraut, but our cellar wasn't cool enough and the butcher had a big vat of good fresh Sauerkraut, so we didn't try that out.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Linnet » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:15 pm

After reading this, I noticed today that my local (medium-sized) Sainsburys has Kefir among the chilled Polish products, and at £1.40 for a litre bottle. Not tried it yet!

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Re: Kefir

Postby Renée » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:14 pm

Thanks Linnet. I'll watch out for it when I go next time.

Uschi, that's such a sad story about people having to eat grass to survive. We have to be thankful that we have an abundance of food these days.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Sakkarin » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:33 pm

Well, thanks to Linnet's post I found Polish "Kefir drink" in Tesco, so I tried it, but they also had Polish strawberry buttermilk for £1.25 for "1 kg".

The buttermilk was very thick and creamy. Thumbs up there.

The kefir was odd. It was lumpy, so I put the lid back on to shake it up, but unfortunately not tight enough, so I now have kefir splatter on my sideboard :-(

Bottom line? It tastes sort of what I imagine milk that's been soured with lemon to make paneer would taste like, if you eat the whole lot including the curds and the whey. And maybe add gelatin to give it the glueyness. Or maybe just sour milk with an extra slug of lemon juice.

I also thought: "Hey, I've just BOUGHT sour milk, when I have 5 pints of fresh milk in the fridge...".

However I can see that if you like that sourness, it could grow on you.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Linnet » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:33 pm

Thanks, Sakkarin, think that's a miss with kefir for me then!

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Re: Kefir

Postby Renée » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:48 pm

Well, added to smoothies, I wouldn't notice the taste!

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Re: Kefir

Postby Sakkarin » Mon May 01, 2017 3:24 pm

Could have sworn I'd already posted this, but no sign of it!

Anyway, I was about to throw away the remaining kefir after a quick sniff, but happened to have about 100g of plump strawberries left over in the fridge, so I added a tablespoon of icing sugar, and chicked it all in the blender. A very refreshing yoghurty drink! Afterwards it struck me that I could have added in one of the ripe bananas I had on the side, too, and it would have been even nicer. Very slight ammoniaish smell to the drink, but I ignored it.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Sakkarin » Tue May 23, 2017 12:31 pm

Tried the 1 litre cartons of Polish plain buttermilk in Tesco yesterday, only £1.

250ml buttermilk: 25p
Half a small banana: 4.5p
4 plump strawberries: 35p
2 tsp icing sugar: 0.5p

Equals one huge glass of the fabbest strawberry smoothie ever for 65p, better than the aforementioned pre-made strawberry one and the kefir concoction.

Anything else that can be done with buttermilk?

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Re: Kefir

Postby Binky » Tue May 23, 2017 2:11 pm

Dr Michael Mosley talking on Radio 4 about kefir (it's a 5 minute clip)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05388dz

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Re: Kefir

Postby jeral » Tue May 23, 2017 2:18 pm

People often recommend buttermilk muffins and scones,e.g.
http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/30777/bu ... ffins.aspx
https://smittenkitchen.com/2013/03/my-f ... -biscuits/

If you Google "buttermilk soup" lots of different recipes come up.

I can't eat buttermilk, but a lot do enthuse about it :)

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Re: Kefir

Postby Binky » Tue May 23, 2017 3:11 pm

Buttermilk is in a lot of cornbread recipes. This so one chosen at random.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paul ... pe-1921711

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Re: Kefir

Postby Renée » Thu May 25, 2017 2:11 pm

Thank you for the Dr Michael Mosley link, Binky. I bought his book from Amazon last week.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cka/Clever-G ... 147&sr=1-1

I used make Delia's scones, which contained buttermilk. They were very light.

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Re: Kefir

Postby Stokey Sue » Thu May 25, 2017 3:35 pm

Sakkarin wrote:Anything else that can be done with buttermilk?

Southern fried chicken

Lots of recipes online, two schools of thought
1. Marinate the chicken in buttermilk and flavourings, then roll in flour and fry (which I think I'd go for)
2. make a batter with the butter milk, flour and flavourings and dip the chicken in it

Pioneer Woman's version
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ree-drummond/fried-chicken-2170718

If you don't want to fry, Nigella's buttermilk roast chicken might be interesting
http://www.foodnetwork.co.uk/recipes/buttermilk-roast-chicken.html

For veggies. buttermilk is used in one of my favourite curries avial, which is meant to have a lot of liquid, much of it buttermilk
Random recipe that I haven't tried
http://www.fromammawithlove.com/recipe-aviyal.html

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