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Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby jeral » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:56 am

Part 1 of 2,
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/brit ... urite-food

The emphasis is on popular foods, not fayne dayning, although no doubt some of them probably were thought fancy at the time. I mean, did anyone drink French wine, or even wine at all, before things like Mateus Rosé, mostly drunk as the bottle made good candle holders or lamp bases?

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Stokey Sue » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:24 am

Sounds like no "fayn dayning" at all

Channel 4 wrote:Simon Rimmer looks back at our favourite convenience foods. From Angel Delight to Smash, what was in them and why did we lap them up?



I like Simon Rimmer so may well watch it

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby jeral » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:06 am

Nope, no posh stuff, in the first part. Dunno about the second part, although quails can probably rest easy.

It should be interesting to see if it was actual food (whether dehydrated, tinned or frozen) rather than a concoction of chemical flavours and E Number gloop. I don't know how they could ascertain that now except if told and I doubt any manufacturer would admit to its food being really good back then :lol:

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Renée » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:10 am

Thanks jeral! I like Simon Rimmer too and the programme will be interesting to watch!

Oh yes, I well remember buying the "posh" bottle of Matéus Rosé, which is still available, of course and is produced in Portugal. When I was a teenager and my parents were away, I made a meal for my brother and myself and bought a bottle of French wine. We didn't like it, so stirred some sugar into it! :shock: It was probably in the late 50s.

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Lizzie-47 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:51 pm

When I was a teenager and my parents were away, I made a meal for my brother and myself and bought a bottle of French wine. We didn't like it, so stirred some sugar into it! :shock: It was probably in the late 50s.[/quote]

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Let's face it, that's what the likes of Blossom Hill do anyway!

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Renée » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:38 pm

Yes, but there was no Blossom Hill in those days, Lizzie and no supermarkets either, where you could wander around and ask for advice.

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Lizzie-47 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:16 pm

Yes - I was implying that what you did was no worse than what some cheap winemakers do... .sorry, probably worded it badly!

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Lizzie-47 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:16 pm

Yes - I was implying that what you did was no worse than what some cheap winemakers do... .sorry, probably worded it badly!

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby jeral » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:02 pm

I'd agree that Blossom Hill has probably replaced Piat D'Or as a nondescript "one suits all" that even beer drinkers will tolerate ;)

That said, Australian red wines like grenache, shiraz and cab sauv, e.g. Rosemount Estate, are pretty good if you like distinct or higher ABV wines.

Seems that a lot of us like Aussie wines as I came across this on Piat D'Or, dated 2001:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/ ... vertising1

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Renée » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:34 am

Lizzie-47 wrote:Yes - I was implying that what you did was no worse than what some cheap winemakers do... .sorry, probably worded it badly!


I realised what you meant, Lizzie! It took me quite a while before I appreciated drier wines, probably after a visit to Brittany with my family! It's surprising how tastes change over the years.

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Stokey Sue » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:22 pm

I wouldn't personally put Blossom Hill on the same plane as Piat d'Or; le Piat d'Or is drinkable :lol:

I think BlossomHill is more Hirondelle level. Some Aussie wines, red and white, are superb. And some come with prices to match these days

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby karadekoolaid » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:22 pm

jeral wrote:I'd agree that Blossom Hill has probably replaced Piat D'Or as a nondescript "one suits all" that even beer drinkers will tolerate ;)

That said, Australian red wines like grenache, shiraz and cab sauv, e.g. Rosemount Estate, are pretty good if you like distinct or higher ABV wines.

Seems that a lot of us like Aussie wines as I came across this on Piat D'Or, dated 2001:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/ ... vertising1


1) Beer drinkers also enjoy decent wine. ;)
2) Personally, Australian Shiraz leaves me with mixed feelings. Some are overly fruity, too sweet and excessively spicy. I often serve Shiraz with Indian food because they go well together. Having said that, I enjoyed a bottle of Australian shiraz with a friend of mine in London, and it was divine. Consistency, maybe?

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Renée » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:57 am

Maybe it depends on the region where the grapes are grown, KK, the climate, also the soil. It must vary a lot in Australia. Also the wine is often shipped over in large containers and bottled in the UK. It is said that there is no difference, but I'm sure that there is.

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Stokey Sue » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:43 pm

Australia makes so much wine in so many different styles in so many different places (and at so many different prices) you can't really think about it as a single entity, there's so much variety

Anything from the Margaret River is likely to be a good bet - an area of great grapes and good small scale wineries with wines made by individual, usually named, winemakers.

You can pay well over £50 for some Aussie wines, but anything by a good winery such as Wirra Wirra or d'Arenburg costing £10 - £15 will be proper special occasion stuff

Anything by Peter Lehman or Wolf Blass is worth a try, not usually expensive, I've got a bottle of Wolf Blass Red Label Cabernet /Shiraz I expect to enjoy (been drinking it for 20 years) £5 on offer in Morrisons

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Renée » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:24 pm

Thanks, that's very helpful, Sue and I will make notes. I don't pay a lot for everyday wines. £5 is usually the maximum.

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Joanbunting » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:27 pm

Unfortunately that is a mistake many people make Renee. If you buy inexpensive wine what you are paying for is mostly duty VAT and the bottle itself. Pay a little more and you are getting far better value for money in terms of the quality of what you are drinking.

Here's the reason:
http://gavinquinney.com/2014/02/05/wher ... -the-uk-2/

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby strictlysalsaclare » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:29 pm

We bought 3 bottles of Wolf Blass Chardonnay in Asda this week because it was on special offer. So thank you for the recommendation Stokey Sue.

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Renée » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:16 pm

That was quite an eye-opener Joan and thank you for the link. I do watch out for Chilean or Argentinian Malbecs which are on offer because I do like those two.

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Renée » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:23 pm

I found the Wolf Blass Red Label Cabernet /Shiraz in Asda Sue, but the price had been reduced to £6.48. However, it was three bottles for the price of two, so I took advantage!

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Re: Ch.4 Fri 23 Mar 8pm Brtiain's Fave Food

Postby Stokey Sue » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:01 am

I actually watched the programme too

Quite interesting, went into a bit more depth than I expected

Zooms wre much better than Fab lollies though - those sprinkles were nasty IMHO

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